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The Both Elephant Type 89 Review
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03-09-2008, 07:28 AM
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The Both Elephant Type 89 Review
The Both Elephant Type 89 Review
As many of you are aware I recently returned from a trip to Hong Kong and Main Land China to meet with some of the movers and shakers in the Airsoft industry. One of the things I announced was the release of the JSDF TYPE 89 Rifle by Both Elephant along with some images of the prerelease production model, I also promised a full in depth review of the Type 89. ![]() I would like to thank Keith at [url="http://www.rsov.com/"]RSOV[/url] for getting us this prerelease sample and his continued support and dedication to Arnie's Airsoft. So here it is! [img]http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6379/2mediumkc7.jpg[img] But before we start on the review here is some information on the real steel weapon: [size="1"] Quote:The Howa Heavy Industry Type 89 Assault Rifle, referred to as the 89å¼ (ã¯ã¡ãã ããã or hachikyuushiki) or "Buddy" (ããã£ã¼ or badhii), is a Japanese-exclusive assault rifle used by the Japan Self-Defense Forces, Japan Coast Guard and the Special Assault Team. It was never exported outside of Japan due to its strict anti-hardware export laws. It has replaced the Howa Type 64 battle rifle in frontline units.[/size] So with Both Elephants current reputation, will the Type 89 improve their current standing within the Airsoft community? Due to this being a prerelease model the box it came in is not the final production box so Iâm going to skip this part of the review. Also please note that as this is a prerelease certain features maybe missing and quality might not be as good as the final release model. What You Get The Both Elephant Howa Type 89 comes with very few accessories, in this pack you receiver the Howa Type 89, 1 high capacity magazine and the quick release barrel mounted bipod. Please note though that this is a prerelease model and may come with more accessories and battery charger combo. ![]() The magazine is a 350rd high capacity magazine, one of the first thing I noticed is that the Both Elephant variant does not come with the fake rounds behind the windows in the magazine. A simple thing to achieve that does make a difference to the look of the magazines. ![]() One feature that I do like about the Chinese made magazines is quick winding feature, which allows you to use a key to wind the spring to full tension with just a few rotations. ![]() Regardless of the lack of fake bullets, the Both Elephant magazine feeds perfectly though the weapon without any misfires or double feeds. The Type 89 also comes with the quick release bipod that attaches to the barrel through a spring loaded clamp system. ![]() Just squeeze the legs of the bipod together that the jaws of the clamp will open allowing you to attach the bipod to the weapon. ![]() The legs of the Bipod can also be folded back allowing the operator to skirmish with the weapon while the bipod is still mounted without it getting in the way. Then when you need the bipod for marksmanship they can be redeployed quickly. ![]() Howa Type 89 Combat Rifle The rifle is superb and is a perfect copy of the Tokyo Marui except for two things and I will go into these in more depth a little later on in the review. The over all look of the Type 89 by Both Elephant is excellent and they havenât missed out anything. ![]() ![]() Apart from one thing, the trades! Now I really donât see why this would be an issue as itâs actually a government rifle that is only available in Japan. Also what with the import restriction due to patented technology in the Airsoft version, there is no way this would make its way to Japan for mass retail sales. ![]() You will be glad to know though that both the left and right hand side of the receiver does sport Kanji on the selector switch and for those wonderingâ¦..it is correct! ![]() ![]() The flash hider is the standard Howa heavy industries version that is standard issue on all Type 89âs. The Both Elephant release is cast and the seam lines are visible and there is no grub screw to hold it in place. Although this is a preproduction model so certain things might be missing. ![]() The flash hider attaches to the barrel with a CCW (counter clock wise) 14mm thread and actually has a rubber o-ring that prevents you from over tightening the flash hider. Not only that but it sits in its own grove to prevent it from bulging out when you tighten the flash hider. ![]() The barrel is a one piece assembly wit the flash hider, battery tray, wire guides all mounting directly on to it. ![]() The gas block is cast as one piece with a dummy gas regulator that can be twisted into the preset settings. This doesnât actually have any benefits but it is nice that itâs been included. ![]() The Iron sight can be adjusted for distance, although you will need to have the appropriate tool to adjust this though. ![]() The fore grip is identical to that of the Tokyo Marui Type 89 apart from one thing; the grip section of the fore grip is actually rubberized, just like the real Type 89. Unlike the Tokyo Marui! ![]() Unfortunately the frame of the fore grip is plastic and it would have been nice for the frame to have been made of metal, thus improving further on the original. Another thing to note is the venting over the grip is not cut out, this is to hide the battery but again it would have been nice to have the vents. ![]() The upper and lower receiver is metal, needless to say low quality metal but metal all the same and the finish is pretty good and as you can see, they have replicated weld marks and folds in the metal very well. ![]() ![]() The ejection port is semi-functional and when pulled back locks into place to reveal the hop-unit. The bolt release catch does not release the bolt and must be pushed back manually. ![]() The selector switch is the standard issue version and only operatable from the right hand side of the receiver. The lever has a nice click sound when rotated through its positions and leaves no guesses to if you have the selector in position or not. Also like the original the weapon fires in âFull Autoâ, â3 round Burstâ, âSemiâ and Safe modes. ![]() The magazine release catch is surprisingly small when compared to a standard M16/M4 variant but owners of them will see the similarities between them. Players wearing bulky gloves though might find it difficult to fully depress the latch. ![]() The grip and trigger guard assembly is very ergonomic and very pleasing to hold. The whole unit has also been rubberized giving the operator a very positive grip along with a very comfortable hold. Players with large hands need not worry as I found this grip fitted very well. ![]() The rear sight is a block; just like the real one and Iâm sure the JSDF could have come up with something better. No wonder standard infantry are allowed to use there own sights, although out of their own pockets! ![]() The windage can be adjusted by using the dial on the right hand side of the receiver and clicks at each position; while the elevation can be adjusted by winding the dial on the left sided. Again each position is found with a click. ![]() Finally the solid stock is just that, solid with no wobble what so ever. In fact the whole gun is very solid. Yet again the stock is rubberized which is incredibly nice, especially when you have the weapon up against your cheek. ![]() Just like the real weapon the butt stock pad is twisted aside to reveal a storage compartment, although this is not big enough to place a battery inside. Players that are accustomed to Li-Po batteries will have no problem fitting a custom sized battery, although they may find modifying the weapon to do so a little tricky. ![]() Conclusion Overall even without the trades this IS a Howa Type 89. In some areas the replica is better than the Tokyo Marui, especially with the rubberized parts. Yet the Both Elephant version falls into the same trap as all other Chinese manufacturers and that is the finish of the paint. If Chinese manufacturers can get the finish of the paint perfected and to actually last like that of the original then they will be on to a winner, but time and time again I have bought or received samples of Chinese airsoft products and the paint work is appalling and starts to flake off or chip at the slightest touch. ![]() Gear Box & Internals The breakdown of the Both Elephant Type 89 is identical to that of the Tokyo Marui Type 89, so I will not be writing a breakdown guide of the Type 89 but will focus more on the internals of the Both Elephant Type 89. Now probably like many other readers here, I have never opened the new gear boxes found in the Type 89 and without a manual to guide me on the layout or reference I was a little reluctant to open it up. Now before I go into the internals I will share some advice for members who are not familiar or are opening any gear box for the first time. When I strip a weapon for the first time I document everything with my camera from start to finish, not only do these images make up the core of the photographs found in my reviews but they are also a documentation of how the parts originally fitted together, thus making a perfect reference for when I come to rebuild the weapon. So on with the review. The Hop-unit is 100% compatible with Tokyo Marui parts and requires the barrel to be stripped out before it can be accessed. Owners of G36âs will be familiar with the layout of the actual unit and is of an acceptable quality. One thing to note was the amount of grease coating the unit. Players will certainly need to strip out the hop-unit and give it a clean before using it. ![]() The barrel is a standard brass affair and just like the hop-unit was coated in grease. I had to break down the whole barrel and hop-unit assembly to give it a good cleaning with alcohol to remove the last traces of grease. ![]() The motor engages the gearbox in exactly the same way as a typical M16 variant and is mounted in the pistol grip of the rifle. The motor found in the Type 89 is a generic motor found in most Chinese products and is made by Chaoli Motor Machinery Company. These are certainly not the best motors on the market but they are far from being the worst, especially in a stock weapon. ![]() Now I was surprised with the quality of the wiring of the Both Elephant Type 89, I have worked on several Chinese made weapons from various manufacturers and one thing that has struck me in each case is the poor wiring. The Both Elephant however uses a higher quality wire than most, although the soldering really needs improving. ![]() The gear box shell looks exactly like a Tokyo Marui and is fabricated from pot metal. Overall the finish doesnât look as clean as a Marui but it looks perfectly capable of the job itâs designed to do. Now owners of version 2 gear boxes will see many similarities between the two which gives your confidence a little boost when it comes to working on it. The main differences though are the selector switch, and selector plate. You might notice the markers on the selector dials; these are so that you can realign the selector switch before reassembly of the weapon. ![]() ![]() Also on the left side of the gearbox there is a window that gives you a clear view of the sector gear that is designed for the V8 gear box. ![]() To open the gear box you will need to remove the selector switch assembly, once this is done the gear box is opened in exactly the same manner as a version 2. Now readers that are new to the version 8 gear box need not fear as the 3 round mechanical burst mechanics are attached to the left side of the gearbox and need not be removed to work on the gearbox. ![]() Now the first thing you notice about the Both Elephant gear box is the awful amount of grease they are using. Pretty much everything is coated in it. ![]() After cleaning it all off I was very surprised at the quality of machine work on the shell. You can also see the differences between the version 8 and the version 2 gear boxes especially the reinforced areas. ![]() The gear set that Both Elephant is using are of excellent quality and I was very surprised that these are steel. Not only that but the quality of the gear set especially the sector gear, is better than that of the Tokyo Marui gear sets. ![]() Both the bevel and spur gears are both generic style used in most other versionâs of gearboxes. Again these are both made out of steel and are very well made. ![]() ![]() You can see the difference in this shot between the three types of gears. please not the sector gear shown is a version 2 sector gear ![]() ![]() please not the sector gear shown is a version 2 sector gearThe anti-reversal latch is steel as well offering a hard wearing latch that will take some wear and tear before needing to be replaced. ![]() The piston is a 16 tooth version which will make the majority of readers very happy; this means that replacement and upgrade parts will be easy to come by while also allowing players to boost the FPS of the weapon to their personal requirements. ![]() The piston head is of a mediocre standard and also of a three part design, which is a first for me. To be honest I would probably switch this over for one of the spares in by bit box as the air seal seems very weak using the standard Both Elephant piston head. ![]() One thing to note though is the use of thruster bearings in the piston assembly and this is also the first time I have found such hardware in Chinese made replicas. Although the quality is of a very low standard compared to Systema or other brand names on the market. This does offer a bonus to new players looking for a weapon that will go the distance. ![]() The cylinder is a generic non-vented version; you might be wondering why I have the cylinder head still attached. This is because it was physically impossible for me to remove the head from the cylinder. On closer inspection of the unit I found that it seems to have been nipped at the end to give a full air seal to the complete unit. Readerâs whishing to upgrade may need to replace both the cylinder and head. ![]() The head is made from a polymer with a brass vent tube, now although this is of a generic standard I have found that with some Chinese manufacturers that the vent tube will eventually break off after extensive use. But for a stock weapon the one supplied with the gun is ok. ![]() The air nozzle is again of generic quality and was showing signs of wear and tear, although as this is a prerelease model a fair few thousand rounds had been passed through the rifle before I received it. ![]() Tappet plate again is pretty generic with no special features, but then again I find it amusing when companies try to palm you off with âReinforcedâ or âNew Designâ when in actual fact all that is different is the colour. The Both Elephant tappet plate will have no problems with any forces that the system puts on it. ![]() The spring guide is again of generic standards and with the weapon being at stock power will certainly be more than capable of withstanding the wear and tear the spring induces on it. Players wishing to upgrade will certainly need to replace this part though. ![]() The spring is non generic, due to the FPS restrictions in place here in Japan the spring was changed over so that the replica would fire under the 0.98 joule stipulated under the Japanese swords and firearms act. ![]() The switch assembly is well made again using the same polymer found on the piston head, tappet plate and piston. Again the one thing that lets this down is the poor soldering on the connections. ![]() Conclusion All in all, the entire gear box is pretty well built and if you plan to run the weapon at stock velocities and rate of fire it should last a good while. Although the gear box was pretty much clogged up with grease it didnât effect the functioning of the weapon. Also the soldering of this weapon was incredibly poor, but if you have the skills to open and maintain a gear box then this will be a walk in the park. Performance The Both Elephantâs gear box performs exceptionally well, the 3 round burst is awesome with very little delay between each shot. Semi auto and full auto likewise perform well, but the trigger seems a little stiff. The rate of fire seems very close to the original Tokyo Marui Type 89 and fires around 12 shots per second. As I said in the review, the weapon has been down graded for importation in to Japan, but with the down grade the Both Elephant fires at a very respectable 1.2 Joules (Still very illegal here in Japan). ![]() The range of the Type 89 is pretty good as well, Iâm not sure how it would have performed if I hadnât removed all the grease in the inner barrel but the Type 89 is able to reach out at targets at about 50 meters with very little accuracy, but as woodland engagement range is around 20 to30 meters I set the target up to the about the same. As you can see the groupings with the weapon set at semi auto are pretty good with a deviation of about 8 cm between the 1st and the last shot fired in quick succession. ![]() Target: 30meters. BBâs: SIIS .20g Weapon: Both Elephant Type 89 with 2x32 scope With the weapon set to 3 round burst, the groupings are pretty impressive. With a deviation of around 6cm.Burst mode makes this the optimum choice for woodland engagements. [youtube]6nDLCBt6p88[/youtube] Full auto is slightly disappointing but not surprising. As you can see the deviation is a lot more compared to the 3 round burst. This could probably be improved with a tight bore barrel. [youtube]um4hEhOdzBQ[/youtube] Conclusion and closing thoughts. The Both Elephant performs pretty well, especially for the cost of the weapon. Players looking for a skirmishable weapon will not be disappointed or need to spend more money to get the weapon to perform on the skirmish field. Now I need to explain how the scoring works as some might be a little confused by how I grade things. When reviewing ACM or clone products I am comparing them to other ACM or clone products on the market. This means that an ACM product scoring a 9 is by no means as good as a VFC or ICS weapon that scores the same. So with the explanation of how I grade things out the way, Iâm going to give this 8/10 the reasons for this is that there are a few things that really need to be looked at before this goes into full production here are the following: External: ⢠Better paint job/finish to all metal parts. ⢠Fake rounds in the magazine. ⢠Trades and serial numbers. Internal: ⢠Q/A in soldering improved. ⢠Less grease in gear box. ⢠No grease on hop-unit. ⢠Longer pins to attach selector switch. Although the Tokyo Marui also suffers from this. ⢠High quality grease rather than industrial. But donât let these things deter you; the Both Elephant Type 89 is exceptional! Straight from the box and a quick cleanout of the barrel the Type 89 is essentially ready to skirmish straight from the box and for the money you pay for ACM products this gun should certainly be on any players wish list for 2008 that want to impersonate a JSDF look. On a closing note it really seems that the rumors are true in regards to Both Elephant actually working and listening to wholesalers in regards to quality, letâs hope that Both Elephant continues to improve in 2008. Again, I would like to thank the Team at [url="http://www.rsov.com/index.php?osCsid=a080be510670ce0e09e994a2db14c499"]RSOV[/url] for supplying this prerelease for our exclusive review. [url="http://www.rsov.com/index.php?osCsid=a080be510670ce0e09e994a2db14c499"]RSOV[/url] will have be the first to stock the Both Elephant Type 89 rifles as they have secured the first several batches from Both Elephant. |
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